Posts by neat blue dog

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Active JW's: If asked, can you explain/defend this belief?

by The Fall Guy in

as all jw's and awakened ex-jw's know, the very existence of the religion is dependent on people's belief that the "holy trinity" of the wtbts, the ccojw, and the governing body (aka the organization) were personally selected by god/christ.. 1) mr. rutherford claimed that this divine choosing occurred circa 1919, and that all anointed members were personally chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

2) in 2013 this long-held, "profound scriptural truth" was discarded by apostates in brooklyn (the present-day governing body) when they personally decided that only gb members were chosen by god/christ to be the faithful slave.

(wt july 2013, p.22, par.

neat blue dog

Nitty Gritty:

Comparing JWs to 'leaving a club' is a weak comparison and you know it. A club won't slander you to your friends and family, preventing them from speaking to you on threat of death. Haven't you read that 2009 WT magazine that said 'no one should be forced to choose between beliefs and family'? Also, what are you doing here speaking to apostates, directly defying the GB's order to all good JWs? You're obviously having doubts and are on your way out, but fighting it. I understand, I was there.

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Joke Sharing Thread

by Vanderhoven7 in

got a good joke or two?

why not share them.

here is a fun one.. retirement can be fun.

neat blue dog

What did David Splane say when he saw Satan?

Oh my God!!

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Library now cleared out

by UnshackleTheChains in

well, it looks like the axe has finally fallen on our kh library.

during a deep clean of the local kh, a brother suddenly informed everyone 'whikst cleaning' that all the old books including bound volumes of the watchtower etc was to be chucked in the skip.. from what i heard, some were taken aback by this and quite annoyed that no announcement was made; that no one was given the choice of taking some of these books home to keep.

i mean the entire collection of studies in the scriptures and others that go back an entire century.

neat blue dog

It just happened at my Hall within the last few months. No announcement. Dozens of books just gone one day.

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JW.org video

by scary21 in

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does anyone remember the video the jw came out with that showed the mom getting a phone call from her disfellowshipped daughter?

she is tempted to answer but doesn't .

she wants to be faithful to jehovah.

neat blue dog

Disgusting video. Shown at the 2016 convention.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://tv.jw.org/%23bfi/mediaitems/2016Convention/pub-jwbcov_201605_3_VIDEO&ved=2ahUKEwiez4KXj7rfAhUSCawKHc28B2oQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0gt_iCzqE6RMP3HjxP05JS

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Crazy WT stories

by scruffmcbuff in

dennis was offered £5 by cool kids smoking pot and fornicating.

he turned it down and went to read the wt as he turned the page.

what did he see?a £5 note.

neat blue dog

he saw two burly guys standing beside her

This has been told and retold by many, not just JWs. The details of course always change.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alley-oops/

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1981 quote made my blood boil

by neat blue dog in

i just got so angry coming across this quote from the wt, shortly after raymond franz was disfellowshipped:.

one who has been a true christian might renounce the way of the truth, stating that he no longer considers himself to be one of jehovah’s witnesses or wants to be known as one.

when this rare event occurs, the person is renouncing his standing as a christian.

neat blue dog

Never said I was surprised, just angered by the blatant simplicity of their statement, especially in the context of what was happening at the time.

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Jehovah's Witnesses adhering to a commercialized lying and corrupt false prophet the Watchtower Corporation

by Finkelstein in

after doing some critical research upon the watchtower corporation and its activity as a religious publishing house one can clearly see this is a commercialized false prophet run by sinning apostate men.. so the question remains why are people adhering and supporting this organization thinking they are going to gain salvation come judgment day by jesus ?.

jesus laid out instructions in how to identify false prophets, maybe he should have elaborated and said something about false prophets who would sell his gospel for profit.

this relates to more than the men who ran the wts.

neat blue dog

Amen.

maybe he should have elaborated and said something about false Prophets who would sell his gospel for profit

'You received free, give free'

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1981 quote made my blood boil

by neat blue dog in

i just got so angry coming across this quote from the wt, shortly after raymond franz was disfellowshipped:.

one who has been a true christian might renounce the way of the truth, stating that he no longer considers himself to be one of jehovah’s witnesses or wants to be known as one.

when this rare event occurs, the person is renouncing his standing as a christian.

neat blue dog

I just got so angry coming across this quote from the WT, shortly after Raymond Franz was disfellowshipped:

One who has been a true Christian might renounce the way of the truth, stating that he no longer considers himself to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses or wants to be known as one. When this rare event occurs, the person is renouncing his standing as a Christian

What right do they have? Their arrogance knows no bounds! This is blatant sacrilege, stepping in the place of God (as usual) and saying who is and isn't a Christian weather they identify/live/believe that way or not! Just had to post this to get it off my chest.

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My JW-Related Musical Experiences

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

looking back over my life, the only thing that i can say i truly enjoyed as a jw was meeting and becoming friends with a number of jws who were fine musicians and had experienced various measures of success in what used to be called the "music business.

tommy reynolds, from the vocal group hamilton, joe frank & reynolds ("don't pull your love out on me, baby" and "baby, baby, fallin' in love, i'm fallin' in love again") recruited me to play drums in his dallas circuit assembly orchestra in the 1970s.

in 1977, i became friends with legendary jazz composer/arranger/band leader benny golson, whose life story appeared in the oct. 8, 1980 awake, and who appeared opposite tom hanks in steven spielberg's "the terminal.

neat blue dog

Wow that a pretty fascinating read! Had no idea of the people you mentioned being JWs, and not sure others did either as I don't think that info is on the 'celebrity JWs' page of JW Facts.

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Memories from the Edge

by neat blue dog in

when waking up it often isn't an instant switch, there's a period of time when your conflicted feelings are heightened and most uncomfortable.

can anyone remember specific instances in the time before you fully woke up that made you uncomfortable or guilty, despite you still being a 'believer'?.

i can think of two right now, both about a year or two before i woke up:.

neat blue dog

The time we kept rehashing the "Revelation" book at the book studies over and over and over again. The way they, the WTS, kept talking about themselves in the book.

Looking back at that, it was like something close to the Rutherford era, so outlandish. Not sure if they could get away with that today. Then again . . .